For Sale Elden MK10C FF AM 73-79

1973 Elden MK10C Racing At High Plains Raceway 8/1/2021

1973 Elden MK10 C Formula Ford, Chassis # AM 73-79        $22k OBO

Complete log books since new.  

Complete restoration 2019, include:

1) new lightweight body from Marchant Cox 2018, $1500

2) Total Precision Engine built in 2016, head rebuilt 2019.  All receipts and Dyno sheets available

3) New Ron Davis aluminum side radiators

4) Harmon Fuel cell built 2017, unused until 2019

5) Spax single adjustable shocks

6) New billet steel Imp rear stub axles from PA Motorsports 2021. This was a $800 upgrade

7) Frame was checked and Aluminum floor added.  

8) Many new rod ends, 

9) New gauges.  

10) Belts expire 2022

Complete setup sheets, 2 year old Hoosier VFF tires, Performance Friction Brakes, 

Spares are MK10C nose and old nose buck, used rear engine cover and carb snorkel, original brass radiators, one spare set of Weller wheels, 2 set of gears; short track and long track.  

Car was raced this past Aug 1 at High Plains Raceway and is ready to go again.

Reason for selling?  I have 3 more Eldens and need to reduce the collection.  I have done allot of research on Elden’s in the US and have developed contacts in the UK and US to support the restoration.  A registry of Elden’s in the US is on my web site:

https://lchrestoration.files.wordpress.com/2018/07/new-elden-register-by-me-version-1-version-1.pdf

Willing to help with transport for expenses up to 1000 miles.  

Ask all you questions. If there is a specific photo you require, advise.

Thanks for looking.

Elden Formula Ford MK10 Chassis Drawings

I want to share a set of drawings I received from John S.  John sent me  the MK10 chassis drawing, Lower A-Arms for Front and Rear Suspension and the Rear Hub casting.  Thank You John, for sharing these valuable pieces of information.

PS:  Elden spare suspension parts are available from MK Motorsports in the UK: https://www.mk8motorsport.com/

and GMT in the USA: http://www.gmtracing.com/

Note: GMT acquired the jigs for the Elden from Pat Price Engineering.

Note:  Just got this from Peter Hampsheir.

Larry,

The differences between the mk8 are minimal.

After 1981 the weight minimum was increased by 50 Kg to allow for mandatory for extinguisher. The Mk8 was already under weight and so I decided to put the exrta in the chassis for strength. The main members were increased from 1″ sq to 1 1/8″.

SCCA roll bar regs increased to 1 1/2″ dia. Rear radius rod mounts went to clevis mounting and the engine Y frame was made detachable. The rear cross-member was raised to permit inboard brakes.

The original  MK 8 chassis drawing was left on train and was superseded by the Mk 10 drawing 10C1 in Jan 74. This was the last mk10 chassis drawing.

Regards, Peter.

 

Elden FF Chasis Drawing

Elden Formula Ford MK10 Chassis

Elden FF front Suspension A Arm drawing

Elden Formula Ford MK10 Lower Front A-Arm

Elden FF Rear Suspension A Arm drawing

Elden Formula Ford Lower Rear A-Arm

Elden FF Rear Hub A Arm drawing

Elden Formula Ford Rear Hub

Elden MK 7 8 9 10 11 Rear bulkhead

Elden MK 7 8 9 10 11 Rear bulkhead

 

Update May 2017

Well it has been a bit of time since I have updated this blog.  Since Oct last years we did our normal traveling in the fall and then spent most of the winter working on Elden AM74-5 and 73-39 and Am73-79

Elden 74-5 was found to have mismatched front uprights.  One was 1/2 ” taller offsetting the hub center line.  Borrowed 2 different ones from our last acquisition and began a search for new replacements.  Was introduced to 2 potential suppliers in the UK. One private individual and another a race shop:

https://www.mk8motorsport.com/

I also spoke to Pat Prince at Pat Prince  Engineering and he has the jigs for the suspension parts.  So soon I will be sending the stuff I need to Pat for repair or fabrication.

We are now running the new Hoosier VFF treaded tires a bit difference that the slicks I have run for years.  But we are nearing an optimum setup.

Elden #2 was nearing completion for this racing season.  Note I am doing preservation not restorations so I don’t strip down the car. When I picked up the car there was an invoice to “straighten the frame”.  Well it is still “bent”.  I couldn’t align the car, ran strings down the chassis found the rear sub frame tweaked 1/2″ at least.  So work has stopped.

Elden #3 AM-73-79 is getting a new body.  The old body had been cutup and missing some parts so I ordered a new body from:

http://www.marchantandcox.co.uk/m-and-c-moulds

New body

Hoping that body is here in June.  So the plan right now is to strip the bent chassis down for repair and to move forward on Elden AM 73-79.

Racing highlights:  We ran ran Elden 74-5 the MK10C rebodied Falconer and the video link is:

Well we will catch up again after the SVRA Open Wheel World Challenge at Indianapolis,  in June.

 

Historical Elden FF Documents

When I got the first two Elden FF’s from South Carolina, the following documents were part of the files that came with the car.  They maybe of interest to others as it was to me.

First are two ads published in the SCCA “SportsCar” magazine, of July 1989.  On the top was an ad for Elden Racing Cars for their new PH 27 Formula Ford.  Also in the same edition of “SportsCar”was an ad for the Elden Register, USA;  a publication put together by Paul Pfanner and Steve Nickless. Combined elden Ads

Secondly, is Issue 1 March 1989 of  “the elden register, u.s.a” published by Paul Pfanner and Steve Nickless for “American Elden Owners and others interested in the marque.”

Elden Register USA letter to owner

Elden Register Issue 1 March 1989

  • On page 2, is a list as of 6-19-88 Elden owners names and Chassis types.  At this time there were 19 names in the “the elden register, u.s.a.”
  • On page 4 is a letter to Steve Nickless from Brian Hampsheir on February 15, 1977 and another to Paul Pfanner from Peter Hampsheir, May 24, 1988
  • Included on page 9 is an article “from hard times to success” where “Mark Kettlewell traces the Elden story”, reprinted from “Autosport, March 1, 1973 edition, Courtesy Haymarket Publishing”

Inside this issue of the “elden register, u.s.a.” was an reprint of a “Sales Brochure from the EldenPH-8, Published by Tom Pumpelly’s NTW Racers Store in 1972”.  This contains allot of information on the original specifications of the PH-8 as it was imported to the USA.

Elden 1972 FF PH-8 ad

Also included in “elden register, u.s.a” Issue 1 was an advertisement for the new Elden PRH27 F.F.1600;

Elden PRH27 ad

This is very good reading and is located here ensure Elden history is maintained.  If someone has other docs we want to maintain, please send them to me and I will add them.

72 Elden MK8 #24 Ready for it first outing

Elden MK 8 DebutIts been a bit of work. The MK8 was to follow the MK10 therefore got the left over time. For the last month tried to get it ready for a paddock run. This weekend will take her out for paddock lapping for general systems check out. Still needs front shocks, rebuilt ones in process, using an old set of SPAX for now. I need to figure out how to bend a rear sway bar as this car doesn’t have one. But for now she has been washed, and loaded into the trailer. Watch for video next week of the paddock debut

Period Pictures of the Newest Elden

Thanks to Jay Davis, the second owner of the Elden MK10C I am posting some of his pictures he was gracious enough to share.  I was most interested in radiator location and attachment points for the same.

One of the question Jay answered for me was if the car came with an original Piper engine.  In the pictures there is a Piper cast aluminum oil sump, Piper oil pump, Piper velocity stack and Piper valve cover.  I have all but the Piper valve cover which Jay says he still has.  Also Jay says that the original block had some weird gob of weld/epoxy covering block damage.  The block I have from the car has two areasImageImage that have repairs from internal shrapnel. Also the cast oil sump shows the same.  So I believe I have the original engine in the car and plan on using it.