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For Sale Elden MK10C FF AM 73-79

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1973 Elden MK10C Racing At High Plains Raceway 8/1/2021

1973 Elden MK10 C Formula Ford, Chassis # AM 73-79        $22k OBO

Complete log books since new.  

Complete restoration 2019, include:

1) new lightweight body from Marchant Cox 2018, $1500

2) Total Precision Engine built in 2016, head rebuilt 2019.  All receipts and Dyno sheets available

3) New Ron Davis aluminum side radiators

4) Harmon Fuel cell built 2017, unused until 2019

5) Spax single adjustable shocks

6) New billet steel Imp rear stub axles from PA Motorsports 2021. This was a $800 upgrade

7) Frame was checked and Aluminum floor added.  

8) Many new rod ends, 

9) New gauges.  

10) Belts expire 2022

Complete setup sheets, 2 year old Hoosier VFF tires, Performance Friction Brakes, 

Spares are MK10C nose and old nose buck, used rear engine cover and carb snorkel, original brass radiators, one spare set of Weller wheels, 2 set of gears; short track and long track.  

Car was raced this past Aug 1 at High Plains Raceway and is ready to go again.

Reason for selling?  I have 3 more Eldens and need to reduce the collection.  I have done allot of research on Elden’s in the US and have developed contacts in the UK and US to support the restoration.  A registry of Elden’s in the US is on my web site:

https://lchrestoration.files.wordpress.com/2018/07/new-elden-register-by-me-version-1-version-1.pdf

Willing to help with transport for expenses up to 1000 miles.  

Ask all you questions. If there is a specific photo you require, advise.

Thanks for looking.

2020 is a New Year. Let’s go Racing

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I seem to procrastinate on updating this page.

Recap 2019

We raced AM74-5 most of the year at local races, Colorado and New Mexico.  In August we took AM73-79 to High Plains Raceway in Colorado.  When the Petronox unit failed in 74-5 we rolled out AM73-79 for its first away race.  The car did reasonably well. The handling of 74-5 is more unforgiving.  It seemed that the shocks maybe setup wrong or the bump steer is off.  The car was skittish under bumps.  Also corner exit understeer was more than I was expecting.  This was the first real test of the car and over the winter will research shocks packages and recheck the bump steer.

Big news!  The   Hewland gearbox that was lost in late 2018 resurfaced in November 2019.  It landed in Laredo Texas in a warehouse handling shipments into Mexico.  It had been switched with another pallet and sat there unclaimed for 9 months.  An employee in Mexico sent an e-mail to me and the warehouse stating the error and to arrange to contact me.  Over a few weeks I verified the freight was correct and had negotiate a storage rate less than the $5/day for a total of nearly $1500.  Eventually they agreed to a reduced rate and I shipped it back to me.  So now I have the original gearbox for AM74-5 back in the shop.  It still needs rebuild but that will wait.

Winter of 2019 we began the normal winter checks of the chassis, engines and gearboxes. AM74-5 was found to have a small crack in a rear bulkhead. I have raced this car for 6 years and even when I bought it I didn’t crack check it.  So I have decide to go down to the frame and refresh completely.

Last summer I had the frame of AM73-74 sandblasted a and bonded a new floor.  I am nearing completion of the restoration of this chassis.  I moved the new engine from AM74-5 to -74 and installed a fresh rebuilt gearbox.  AM73-74 was a MK10C originally and have decided to convert to a MK10B, front radiator with full engine covers and long tail.  Goal is to finish this chassis by June 2020 for testing possible race near the end of the year.

Activities for 2020 include races in New Mexico, and Colorado.  I have penciled in SVRA Indy and Mid-Ohio but need to ensure Am73-79 is handling better.

 

 

 

Elden Personal Registry

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Here is my compilation of Elden’s I have found and communicated with owners, or found in various open forums.  This is a living document and if there are updates, errors, pictures, more info I will gladly include.  I am trying to figure out how to link the many pictures I have of the various cars. So please help me share this info.

Note: Peter Hampsheir maintains the “Official Elden Register”.  I will share info with Peter with your permission.

 

Updated 4/20/2020

New Elden Register by Me (version 1) (version 1)

 

 

 

Feb 2018 Update

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Morning to all,

Thought I would take a few minutes to catch up where we are in the winter work on the Elden’s,

Elden #1,  AM 74-5,  is on the alignment rack, home made, to confirm last years setting and upgrade my measurement capabilities.  Below is a picture of my alignment setup.  My garage floor is not even close to flat, 3/4″ slope in 8′ in places.  So I took my Scale pads and built a pad holders with a roll off area behind the scale pad.

Shop alignment setupI also built my own hub stands to get the wheel assembly out of the way and allow a much more accurate surface to measure off of.

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I also broke down and bought some Suspension Geometry Software to help me understand the Elden suspension design.  I have chased under-steer all of my time  with this car.  Some of the issue is my driving style and maybe the shocks are not in the correct range. (shocks were valved for a higher spring rate than we are using now).

After conversing with MK8 Motorsports in UK, https://www.mk8motorsport.com/, I have begun to follow their guidance on setup.  This required a softer spring package than I was using and maybe the pickup points on the lower a-arms was incorrect.  So with the software I hope to get some Roll Center numbers, camber change  etc.

The hard part of the suspension geometry software is accurately is inputting 3-D coordinates for all the pickup points.  So working on tools to aid in those measurements.

 

Elden #2, AM 73-39, was found to a have a severely bent frame. That frame in is Colorado Springs with Tom B. to straighten.  Hope to have back in late February.  Then we will start over building it with all clean, polished etc parts. This will take most of 2018.

Elden #3, AM 73-79, has its new side radiators from Ron Davis Radiators in Phoenix, AZ.  It was a big challenged to plumb the radiator cross over piping and trying to ensure the driver is safe.  The radiator shrouds were from this car many years ago and were a challenge to fit.  Also with the cross over piping in the drivers compartment, the body parts and suspension are a bit more trouble to deal with than the front radiator cars.  So allot of planning and cussing takes place to fit everything.  I believe we are complete.

Next with Elden #3 is to  fit the front suspension, order shocks, etc.  The end maybe in sight!

Elden #4, AM 73-74, waits in the trailer for its time in the shop.  Unfortunately we have borrowed a few parts to further the other sisters completion.  One of the things we have had trouble with is front uprights.  In talking with MK8 Motorsports, they are now building Elden parts and have listings on their web site; https://www.mk8motorsport.com/elden-parts

I have sent them 3 damaged front uprights from my spares and they will attempt to repair or build new.  Give them a shout.

Will update the suspension work later.

Enjoy the Super Bowl Sunday!

Arrival of Elden FF #4

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Last night we received the fourth Elden FF from Greg N in the Cleveland OH area. The car was run several years and put away in favor of a Hawke. The previous owner passed and Greg N ended up with the car.

Greg N and I are anxious to see this car back on the track in conjunction with my 1973 Elden gotten in Tulsa a few years ago. That car had a very nice chassis restoration but no body. I have a top body mold and some side fairings alnong with this new car to pull some molds, maybe can save both cars.

Anxious to evaluate the car and make list on lists of options for the two cars.

Picture to follow when we start the evaluation.

Larry

1974 Elden MK10C chassis # AM 73-79 Previous Owner Comments

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12-2-14
Hello. MY name is Dana Moudy and I received a email from you about my Elden FF. Sorry for the delay, but I have been super busy for the last few months.
I did own a Elden FF MK10. I bought the car about 1979 or 1980. I was autocrossing with a 67 Shelby GT-350. I decided to move up to run in b-Modified with a FF. I did some research and found out the Elden had the shortest wheelbase of I believe 83”. So it was ideal for B-mod. I won the A-mod & B-mod for 1983 SCCA regional Championships with it.

I finally started racing it in 1985 at Hallett with the COMMA race series in Club FF. I started a string of races with it in which I won 18 straight races with it. I ended with a crash caused by a driver trying to go for first place and he lost control and took off my left rear corner on the car. I repaired it and while leading with 2 laps left the only part I didn’t replace broke and I spun out with a DNF.
I then sold the car to Steve Carbone who bought it for his son to race at Hallett. He owned a Machine Shop for race engines. He took the car totally apart and put it in the back of his pickup truck and on the way to the shop to be painted and chromed he stopped at a burger place to eat. When he came out the truck had been stolen. They eventually found the truck and the chassis and all the parts were still in it. This is where I lost the trail of the car and I don’t know what happened to it.
As far as I know it was never raced at Hallett because I was still racing with a Lola T440 Club Ford. I raced it and a Royale SF with a 2000 Motor and wings. I last raced in Tiga S2000 and I never saw the car back at the track. I quit racing racing at Hallett because for several years I was doing double duty by racing a dirt midget on Friday nights at one track and Saturday nights at another track, as well as the Tiga S2000 once a month at Hallett.
I gave up the road racing and drove the dirt midgets twice a week as well as another car for my son. It was pretty nice to get money at the dirt tracks and they paid nothing for road racing. I quit racing and concentrated on my sons midget. That was around 1995 or so. My memory of racing is pretty blurred with all the races and cars after 20 years. The Elden was a MK10C I think but it had the narrow nose not the wide one which kind of looked like the ones on the Tyrell’s F1 cars at the time it was built. The car came from the Chicago area and had been racing in that region with SCCA.

I have moved and the pictures have all been put away in storage buildings so I would have to dig up some pictures which I have no idea in what boxes they are in. I do have one black and white picture that I have and I could copy it and send it to you if you will send me your address to send it to. It was bright white with a blue Ford stripe and a black stripe down the bottom of the car. It is a picture of the car with the back section of the car removed so we could work an it quicker. It was good to think about that car because I won more races in that car than any others I owned. Between the Elden and the Lola I won 27 races, I 3rd and 3 DNF’s. Quite a lot of winning in that car.
If you have any other questions email me and I will try to answer you if I remember any more. Thanks for bringing up a great time in my life and remembering how all the other drivers with better cars couldn’t believe what that little car could do. Oh, I forgot to tell you I moved the radiators from behind the front tires to next to the drivers seat to get the Transient response better and lose a little weight because I could use less water and lose a little weight at the same time. Thanks for the memories. Dana P. Moudy

Dana, Good Hearing from you and your history with the Elden. I bought an Elden Chassis from a fellow in Ok City and in reviewing the log book you owned the car from Ron Eilken and previously Jay Davis, Jay actually was able to see the car last year and assured it was his as it has special fasteners from a company he represented. Oh so interesting. A couple of pictures I have found of the car and Jay has sent some others from when he owned the car. I don’t have a body for the car but plan on the front radiator position, I Think.