Update May 2017

Well it has been a bit of time since I have updated this blog.  Since Oct last years we did our normal traveling in the fall and then spent most of the winter working on Elden AM74-5 and 73-39 and Am73-79

Elden 74-5 was found to have mismatched front uprights.  One was 1/2 ” taller offsetting the hub center line.  Borrowed 2 different ones from our last acquisition and began a search for new replacements.  Was introduced to 2 potential suppliers in the UK. One private individual and another a race shop:

https://www.mk8motorsport.com/

I also spoke to Pat Prince at Pat Prince  Engineering and he has the jigs for the suspension parts.  So soon I will be sending the stuff I need to Pat for repair or fabrication.

We are now running the new Hoosier VFF treaded tires a bit difference that the slicks I have run for years.  But we are nearing an optimum setup.

Elden #2 was nearing completion for this racing season.  Note I am doing preservation not restorations so I don’t strip down the car. When I picked up the car there was an invoice to “straighten the frame”.  Well it is still “bent”.  I couldn’t align the car, ran strings down the chassis found the rear sub frame tweaked 1/2″ at least.  So work has stopped.

Elden #3 AM-73-79 is getting a new body.  The old body had been cutup and missing some parts so I ordered a new body from:

http://www.marchantandcox.co.uk/m-and-c-moulds

New body

Hoping that body is here in June.  So the plan right now is to strip the bent chassis down for repair and to move forward on Elden AM 73-79.

Racing highlights:  We ran ran Elden 74-5 the MK10C rebodied Falconer and the video link is:

Well we will catch up again after the SVRA Open Wheel World Challenge at Indianapolis,  in June.

 

Elden Build History from “RACECAR” May 1979

I was looking back at some old files and found this article from “RACECAR” from May 1979″.

This link is to the whole article describing Formula Fords built from the mid-60’s to 1979.

Charting the Fords-FF general info

What is most interesting to me is the Elden Formula Ford part of the article.  The following link is the only place I have seen the where the 4 models of the PH10 are described relative to the radiator placements:

1972-73 PH10 with single front radiator similar to the PH8

1973   PH10A is a PH10 with the “Falconer” body with twin front radiators.

1974   PH10B is a twin side radiator layout with the radiators directly behind the front suspension

1975   PH10C is a twin side radiator layout with the radiators moved alongside the roll hoop

Elden Registry info

In talking with Peter Hampsheir he indicated that many of the PH10B and C’s were converted to the front radiator design (PH8 and 10).  But what I am listing here is just some info I don’t want to lose.  If anyone has more info please share your info.

 

 

SIAM Presevation Round 1 Done

So I have working on the SIAM pretty much non-stop since Dec 2015. Today I declare it ready to go to the Crosley National meet in Waueson, OH in July. My path of Presevation is to take stages or I’ll never finish. This gives me the motivation to get going again. 

SIAM is a custom chassis built by Purdue Engineering students in 1954.  Was re-bodied in 1956 with the John Mays “Fibersport” body. 

I got the car in 2004 and began the preservation. Work stopped to build the Elden Formula Ford’s. Now SIAM is running and driving short distances.  

Watch for more history and info.  

Larry

Historical Elden FF Documents

When I got the first two Elden FF’s from South Carolina, the following documents were part of the files that came with the car.  They maybe of interest to others as it was to me.

First are two ads published in the SCCA “SportsCar” magazine, of July 1989.  On the top was an ad for Elden Racing Cars for their new PH 27 Formula Ford.  Also in the same edition of “SportsCar”was an ad for the Elden Register, USA;  a publication put together by Paul Pfanner and Steve Nickless. Combined elden Ads

Secondly, is Issue 1 March 1989 of  “the elden register, u.s.a” published by Paul Pfanner and Steve Nickless for “American Elden Owners and others interested in the marque.”

Elden Register USA letter to owner

Elden Register Issue 1 March 1989

  • On page 2, is a list as of 6-19-88 Elden owners names and Chassis types.  At this time there were 19 names in the “the elden register, u.s.a.”
  • On page 4 is a letter to Steve Nickless from Brian Hampsheir on February 15, 1977 and another to Paul Pfanner from Peter Hampsheir, May 24, 1988
  • Included on page 9 is an article “from hard times to success” where “Mark Kettlewell traces the Elden story”, reprinted from “Autosport, March 1, 1973 edition, Courtesy Haymarket Publishing”

Inside this issue of the “elden register, u.s.a.” was an reprint of a “Sales Brochure from the EldenPH-8, Published by Tom Pumpelly’s NTW Racers Store in 1972”.  This contains allot of information on the original specifications of the PH-8 as it was imported to the USA.

Elden 1972 FF PH-8 ad

Also included in “elden register, u.s.a” Issue 1 was an advertisement for the new Elden PRH27 F.F.1600;

Elden PRH27 ad

This is very good reading and is located here ensure Elden history is maintained.  If someone has other docs we want to maintain, please send them to me and I will add them.

The History of the Falconer Rebody

It has always been a question of mine on the true validity of the Falconer body on my Elden MK10C.  The previous owner had the car re bodied but the top cockpit is different from the original Falconer design. The reason was under Lee Stohr’s ownership he converted the car from an outboard suspension to front inboard with rockers and modifications were needed in the cockpit body panel to clear the rockers.

A few days ago Allan D. helped me inventory the spare body panels I have accumulated over the several acquisitions.  When I bought the 74 MK10C from South Carolina it came with Lee Stohr’s original body.  I have toyed with the idea of putting that body back on so Allan D. and I setup the panels and low and behold this is what we found.  The following pictures show what transpired:

picture 1

 

The first picture shows the Swift type nose cone Lee Stohr used and the cockpit, but with something missing.  Also note the rear engine cover very similar in design as the Falconer.

Falconer original vs as now

If you notice the original Elden Falconer Body work, copied from a picture on Race-Cars.com, there is a bubble in front of the cockpit opening, assume to deflect air over the drivers head.  By using Lee Stohrs middle section incorporating the inboard rockers the Falconer bump was eliminated.  I will say I wish I had the bubble as the wall of air off the nose is very annoying at 100 mph, trying to lift my helmet off!

So the mold I have is the final product of the current Falconer body style.  What is great I now understand the evolution of this cockpit body panel and the rest is original Falconer.

Fianl Falconer mold

Thanks to Lee Stohr for the picture of his car in 1980, and Race-Cars.com for their tremendous archive.

 

Body Panels for Elden MK10B AM73-79

Elden MK10 B AM73-79 as raced by Jay Davis.  I wish to re body this car with the parts I already have.  Thanks to Jay for this and other pictures of the car during the time he had it.

As Raced Jay davis.jpg

On this car I got from Tim H. in Tulsa,  there were some panels that were saved from the days of Jay Davis.  Note the two holes at the back of the side body panels for radiator plumbing, as this is the remnants of conversion of this car from a MK10B to MK10C , You can see the front radiator hose openings have been glassed over from when the car was a MK10B configuration.

This picture shows the top cockpit using an Elden cockpit body panel with a nose grafted on.  Along side are the side body panels after much modification.

Elden #3 body parts.JPG

Since I want to take this car back to a Elden MK10B with the radiators behind the front wheels as is AM73-74, this next picture shows what I have to work with from my inventory:

Potential MK 10 C body panels

So it looks like I need side body panels and a nose.  I am thinking of trying to pull a mold off the last Elden MK10B AM73-74 side body panels I just got from Greg N.  He also had the wood “buck” to make a nose mold and may try to use it to make a female mold, but will have to see my fiberglass skills on the side panels.

Recap Elden FF Chassis #’s

Since I use allot of numbers, etc describing the Elden FF’s in my shop, so  I  created an index:

#1  1974 Elden MK10C (re bodied to Falconer) AM 74 5; currently racing, came from South CarolinaRMVR Pueblo Motorsports Park

#2  1973 Elden MK8 AM 73-39 currently running Solo events, came from South CarolinaMK8 at farmington Oct15

#3  1973 Elden MK10B  AM 73-79 waiting for restoration, came from Tulsa OklahomaJay Davis Picture #1

#4  1973 Elden MK10B  AM 73-74, waiting for restoration, came from Cleveland Ohioattachment