Indianapolis Baby!

June of this year year we entered the Falconer bodied Elden FF, AM74-5, in the SVRA Open Wheel World Challenge at the famed Indianapolis 500 Road Course.  I heard there were 350 open wheel cars entered and by looking at the drivers meeting in the media center I would believe it.  There were FV’s to F1 cars.  Pro series and amateur entrants.  I met a few folks driving F Jr’s from Australia and New Zealand.  Cool!

Here is a picture of me in “027” on the grid in Gasoline Alley.

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We came well prepared and had minimal problems with the car.  But when we left NM we knew that the under-steer in the car was still to be worked out.  We are running 300 lb/in springs front and rear.  We have been advised to go to 275 Fronts and 250 or softer in the rear. Upon getting home we will order those springs and see if it helps.  Note for History, Elden #4 AM73-74 springs were 225# front and 180# rears.  They appear to be original.  So during the races I fought some under-steer in the high speed corners.  So I took my time to ensure not to interfere with anyone of the faster guys.

Also I guessed at the gears and 4th was okay but 1-3 were to low and was unable to use effectively, so left allot of time on the table.  I was so consumed on trying to drive, I decided not to chase gears.  But I have a better idea from other competitors what should be in the Hewland for next time.

So here is a video of the last race.

Next race is High Plains Raceway end of July.

 

Larry

 

 

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Update 7/4/2017 Elden FF 73-79

Well lets update the world.  We received a new a new body from Len at Marchant and Cox in the UK:

http://www.marchantandcox.co.uk/m-and-c-moulds

The Elden was originally a MK10 C which had the radiators mounted on the side of the chassis behind the front wheels.  So that is what we are restoring.  Steve C was working in the shop and began moving all the “bits” from Elden 73-39, the bent chassis, and began installing into this chassis.

Engine is a 4 hour old, iron head engine built by Pete Christensen in Fort Collins, Colorado at Total Precision Engines.  This engine had a brand new 711M block and Scat crank.

http://totalprecisionengines.com/PeteChristensen.php

The gearbox on this Elden was rebuilt by Taylor Race Engineering many years ago and never even had fluid put into it.

http://taylor-race.com/

So before Steve C could get to far along I decided we needed to mount the body as the side panels cannot be removed without removing the radiators and suspension.  Many of the mounting tabs had been removed in a past life, so I manufactured new ones.  The nose structure, holding the nose cone, had been removed and lost.  So with the luck of having Elden #4, an very original MK10C, was able to use its chassis to mimic the nose cone box.  One change will be the removal of the battery from the nose cone location to another place in the chassis.

Here is a picture of the nose cone structure from Elden MK10C 73-74:

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New nose cone support structure on 73-79

Now a picture of the body mounted to the car.

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Still need to design some Aluminum radiators that will fit the radiator shrouds and mount to the side panels.  Also I am building a 20 gauge Aluminum panels to mount to the side of the chassis to separate the water transfer tubes from the driver compartment.

So anyway the work continues.

Update May 2017

Well it has been a bit of time since I have updated this blog.  Since Oct last years we did our normal traveling in the fall and then spent most of the winter working on Elden AM74-5 and 73-39 and Am73-79

Elden 74-5 was found to have mismatched front uprights.  One was 1/2 ” taller offsetting the hub center line.  Borrowed 2 different ones from our last acquisition and began a search for new replacements.  Was introduced to 2 potential suppliers in the UK. One private individual and another a race shop:

https://www.mk8motorsport.com/

I also spoke to Pat Prince at Pat Prince  Engineering and he has the jigs for the suspension parts.  So soon I will be sending the stuff I need to Pat for repair or fabrication.

We are now running the new Hoosier VFF treaded tires a bit difference that the slicks I have run for years.  But we are nearing an optimum setup.

Elden #2 was nearing completion for this racing season.  Note I am doing preservation not restorations so I don’t strip down the car. When I picked up the car there was an invoice to “straighten the frame”.  Well it is still “bent”.  I couldn’t align the car, ran strings down the chassis found the rear sub frame tweaked 1/2″ at least.  So work has stopped.

Elden #3 AM-73-79 is getting a new body.  The old body had been cutup and missing some parts so I ordered a new body from:

http://www.marchantandcox.co.uk/m-and-c-moulds

New body

Hoping that body is here in June.  So the plan right now is to strip the bent chassis down for repair and to move forward on Elden AM 73-79.

Racing highlights:  We ran ran Elden 74-5 the MK10C rebodied Falconer and the video link is:

Well we will catch up again after the SVRA Open Wheel World Challenge at Indianapolis,  in June.

 

Elden Build History from “RACECAR” May 1979

I was looking back at some old files and found this article from “RACECAR” from May 1979″.

This link is to the whole article describing Formula Fords built from the mid-60’s to 1979.

Charting the Fords-FF general info

What is most interesting to me is the Elden Formula Ford part of the article.  The following link is the only place I have seen the where the 4 models of the PH10 are described relative to the radiator placements:

1972-73 PH10 with single front radiator similar to the PH8

1973   PH10A is a PH10 with the “Falconer” body with twin front radiators.

1974   PH10B is a twin side radiator layout with the radiators directly behind the front suspension

1975   PH10C is a twin side radiator layout with the radiators moved alongside the roll hoop

Elden Registry info

In talking with Peter Hampsheir he indicated that many of the PH10B and C’s were converted to the front radiator design (PH8 and 10).  But what I am listing here is just some info I don’t want to lose.  If anyone has more info please share your info.

 

 

SIAM Presevation Round 1 Done

So I have working on the SIAM pretty much non-stop since Dec 2015. Today I declare it ready to go to the Crosley National meet in Waueson, OH in July. My path of Presevation is to take stages or I’ll never finish. This gives me the motivation to get going again. 

SIAM is a custom chassis built by Purdue Engineering students in 1954.  Was re-bodied in 1956 with the John Mays “Fibersport” body. 

I got the car in 2004 and began the preservation. Work stopped to build the Elden Formula Ford’s. Now SIAM is running and driving short distances.  

Watch for more history and info.  

Larry

Elden Register by Me!

I wanted to start a register of cars I know of now 12/2015  Please help me keep track of the cars in the US and others with the intent of supporting the preservation of the Elden Marque,  (Data gleaned from personal contacts or by contact in: http://www.Apexspeed.com, http://www.RMVR.com)

Elden FF’s and Super Vee’s in the USA, Canada and UK

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I would like for this to be a living document so any updates or additions will be appreciated.

Note:  This is not an Official Elden Register by the Hampsheir’s, but my own contacts.

Historical Elden FF Documents

When I got the first two Elden FF’s from South Carolina, the following documents were part of the files that came with the car.  They maybe of interest to others as it was to me.

First are two ads published in the SCCA “SportsCar” magazine, of July 1989.  On the top was an ad for Elden Racing Cars for their new PH 27 Formula Ford.  Also in the same edition of “SportsCar”was an ad for the Elden Register, USA;  a publication put together by Paul Pfanner and Steve Nickless. Combined elden Ads

Secondly, is Issue 1 March 1989 of  “the elden register, u.s.a” published by Paul Pfanner and Steve Nickless for “American Elden Owners and others interested in the marque.”

Elden Register USA letter to owner

Elden Register Issue 1 March 1989

  • On page 2, is a list as of 6-19-88 Elden owners names and Chassis types.  At this time there were 19 names in the “the elden register, u.s.a.”
  • On page 4 is a letter to Steve Nickless from Brian Hampsheir on February 15, 1977 and another to Paul Pfanner from Peter Hampsheir, May 24, 1988
  • Included on page 9 is an article “from hard times to success” where “Mark Kettlewell traces the Elden story”, reprinted from “Autosport, March 1, 1973 edition, Courtesy Haymarket Publishing”

Inside this issue of the “elden register, u.s.a.” was an reprint of a “Sales Brochure from the EldenPH-8, Published by Tom Pumpelly’s NTW Racers Store in 1972”.  This contains allot of information on the original specifications of the PH-8 as it was imported to the USA.

Elden 1972 FF PH-8 ad

Also included in “elden register, u.s.a” Issue 1 was an advertisement for the new Elden PRH27 F.F.1600;

Elden PRH27 ad

This is very good reading and is located here ensure Elden history is maintained.  If someone has other docs we want to maintain, please send them to me and I will add them.